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A shared vision of our community - people in open ag tech
What do we want these tools to do
Normative question : What do we want our society to look like
Is this 2 Groups? shared vision versus the tools to get us there
A group working on tools
Can we create a structure that in a perfect world what would it look like
This would be a functional system that catches all of this
The tools are the shared vision
There is no manifesto
We have wanting to be getting to one
We need some first principles
what we all agree as a osciert
Then we have a clear idea of what the tools we need
IT outlines what we might need as a group
What do we mean by society?
Not distinguishing between this community and society.
What kind of exercises to capture this?
Popcorn style discussion
Pass the paper
Pass the paper prompt
Start with the vision and go around
In 2018 Goat organizers came up with an initial vision:
On the website there is a broad vision:
The technologies that produce our food and the data about our food system should be public, and enable control by the farms and farmers that produce it. Together, we can collectively address the problems which prevent the creation of advanced, high quality open technology and its adoption.
In that year - all that info came in> no it came from a few people
It is not a vision but an intent.
Is open always good
Greg - my vision for the community is one that starts with individual relationships
Cross cultural understanding and knowledge - recognize that different people have different ways of expressing and processing knowledge
Environmental stuff
Shared knowledge - shared information
Building a commons of knowledge
THere are clear connections between the knowledge of communities and broader society
We don’t want to build a community that is too inward facing
Common humanity around food - transport, how we relate to resource on earth
Participation in community - community is not effective people are not participating
MOre than one people and orgs have the tools to improve their food system
SO GOAT is organized around active empowerment
ACtive versus passive empowerment
COmmunity development approach
Tech space - gives power to people that already have it
As a community developer how do we get people interested in this stuff?
IT tends to be concentrated in people that already involved
I was thinking of empower - who are we are empowering
Farmers emers of the foods system or consumers, or workers
Are we empowering people that already have power?
Thinking aspirationally - I would like to see that we have an impact on the way that people think of the ownership of technology
We create an alternative out there that actually shifts the norms of the industry
EG right to repair - big ag equipment
Being able to have your typical farmer - not someone that is into this subculture- ie your average farmer that might be able to ask these questions and have options
THere is some education here that is giving people alternatives
Large scale changes in the hearts and minds in people - people recognizing
Empowerment… people feeling like they have some control
Examples - Tesla did for electric cars - came out of nowhere and forced the hand
and then they enabled others
Initiate large scale change
Big hairy audacious goals -w e want that for a vision that gets people excited
ANd that we need all the steps that get there.
Having this thing
Finding ways to translate actions that are examples that reinforce the vision
codifying visions and rules that we don’t necessarily want to reinforce
Algorithms and how we can reinforce the existing structures that we create
FIRST PRINCIPLES truly asking what does it mean to be truly equitable
How to create feedback loop to measure success
Success is not a self reinforcing feedback loop - or timeframe etc -
so we need really good and accurate metrics that don’t make things worse over time
How to shift the the model
How to keep in mind the non tech aspects of things
How to bring in more relationships that inform the non tech world.
The paper is coming around as well.
We will set up a google doc that we can all work on
And we can get it into a clearer thing
Tangibility - making sure that the knowledge and learnings we have come back into this
Assessment how do we know we are making progress
Making sure we are not just codifying existing mechanisms
How do we decide this is the right way? Are we just making dictatorial decisions?
Is there a democratic process ? How is GOAT governed
Are we building a paragraph vision>
Do we have statements about governance ?
We need a set a principles - ie) we believe in transparency in the process
These kinds of things are what we are actually doing.
Can we have a hierarchy of vision? Sounds like we have different visions.
One thing that can be helpful is what we don’t want to focus on
There is a whole world of genetic modification - there are alot of people that are saying that is the direction to go if we want to be…
Do we want to say we focus on digital tech… ie if someone wants to make a better hoe that might be dismissed
THere are different types of technology that could all fit into things we are interested in
- kicking one out is not ideal because we
But what we put here is a function of what we do
We are making a call to the world for those that want
Control and ownership - who has control OPEN is not enough
Open versus the commons
Commons are not necessarily open access - there is governance and protocols built into it
THe tension inherent in diversity of ideas
We understand the freedom of rights
We do value a level of governance - because there is accountability to a community
The most important thing is to be transparent and self aware
We need to at least the why and considerations around the thing
Transparent inforcest thoughtfulness
Clearly communicate
WHat we are doing is going to have an impact
Is the gathering an event or communities?
In between the last conference of 2018 we continued on - we have a loosely affiliated group of people that are around and that we can know who to go to for help
How confined is it to open ag tech? Does that go beyond open ag tech?
DO we scope down to ag? How do we stay generalizable?
Nature imprints on us- we build on on that and then it influences the world
It is a community of relationships - personal relationship
Fundamentally this community must be about relationships -
TRUST it must be about trust
Something about understanding the holistic nature of things - not just about your thing but how it interacts with everything
Different categories we are talking about
What are the outcomes we want to have as this group
What are the experiences we want to have in this group?
We want it to be enjoyable where people can learn and grow, - all these expreiences things that we want to have in side
We can have all of that but we are also wanting to have some kind of output or thing
One of the goals is to align development
Thinking of us as creating the pieces of a shared minimal toolbox.
We all want to agree on what the this is so that we can
SO that in x amount of time we can work on something
Humanitarian data exchange - example and precedent
Resources what is out there, what do we have, this also left gaps
The GOATscape group is working on mapping
Could we do a GOAT social mapping
Sumapp
a tool that is a rolling tool - data can be visualized in Kumo - my vision of stacked ontologies
Could Jeniffer perhaps do a demo on this?
Knowing where we are now will help us understand our progress
That map would be a thing
Person to person - org to org, org to person
graph commons is another one for this
How do we measure success -
does it make people feel more connected
does it increase collaboration and projects
This is capable of doing it and requires commitment
It is important not to engineer ourselves to death
The core of what community builds around is a core vision that everyone can understand
ie) when you are a parent you first focus on the kids and then over time you realize that you need to focus on the relationships and the kids will copy
When we try to engineer ourselves into success we just end up where we are today,
There is a a roadmap there is a mapping that can help
THere is a hierarchy
Can we have a vision - could we have a vision on top of a graph
These things are what we are doing and what is possible missing
Almost a symptoms map
Realizing what pieces are maybe missing
THe Fundamental thing we need is to get one vision
words are hard - how to get people to buy into one vision
Is the gap the method of how to get people there
We have this exp in the open hardware world
Sometimes you avoid the hard work and sometimes you engage it
The hard work is that consensus statement
can you say something meaningful not something obvious
If you can get people to collectively agree to it that is something
Even if we come to a powerful statement will that drive change
Does that makes sense to get people to participate
Process for a Statement
- Vision
- mission
- principles
- outcomes
We need to be able to make a statement and learn to adapt.
people will feel left out and then we learn
Manifesto - metrics for success- we have a feedback loop
Propose we can’t just expect - technology has a tendency to create feedback loops
But if we avoid feedback we are dictatorial in our processes
How do we not engage unproductive (harmful) tech loop
TO inform next sessions and ideal outcomes wishlist…
- like to see an infusion of design justice theory - it has already been started and we need to consult theoretical work
- I would love to see a process for what next steps ar
- I would love to see an inclusion of measurement feedback
- Something tangible to operationalize abstract things we arelaking about
- Open supportive and inspiring
- Ongoing conversation with community -
- helpful to define some of the scope of what we are talking about - mission versus vision versus values a lot of different names - lets get clear of what we want to include in this
- Revisiting what are the needs of this community - return to this question to ensure that we have feedback ( not unproductive) - remind ourselves to have a guiding question that loops in- workshopping
- A well defined vision statement
- Feed into another session - complete the other part of the operational component that goes into this. More intangible aspects of the shared vision.
- nature people tech - what order are we going to prioritize or designs?